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Posted 20 December 2011 - 06:41 AM

We just got enhanced uploading capability at YouTube and longer content allowances but it seems the new SOPA and related IP acts up for legal battle and empowering lobby groups against Copyright abuse will make all these changes rather useless. I know bootlegs are supremely frowned on but I still want to hear them for posterity, and Youtube allows film viewing which can be argued needs to incur viewing fees if allowed. For me though, I think free is TV at the least, and documentary fare. I typically buy a movie I like and watch it on YouTube for other reasons, since the quality will ALWAYS be of a lesser degree, and YT cannot stream you HD as you get on home equipment delivery, nor can it give you 8 channel digital surround. I think streaming is nice if you're in transit, on your laptop, but at home, most don't sit at their computer to watch programming, it's just one outlet, and could all be under threat VERY soon!


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Posted 20 December 2011 - 02:32 PM

America is just absolutely fucked if they pass this.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 02:46 PM

The internet is boned if they pass this not just America.

Americans and everyone else ..Please do the needful.



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Posted 20 December 2011 - 02:57 PM

I used to kinda ignore this all thing, but it seems more serious now. Is there actually any chance they might approve this?
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 03:09 PM

^Yep, There is really good chance that this may get approved. Its being aggressively lobbied and supported by major record labels, publishers(EA), the MPAA, RIAA etc

They even tried to trick people into thinking the next hearing date for the bill is 2012 and quietly changed the date to the 21st(Tomm,).

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 03:54 PM

Pretty fucking ridiculous. Any of you sign the petitions evo posted?

Shit like this won't help record labels. Record labels would save themselves with the use of creativity. Take what people like Trent Reznor, Radiohead, Louis CK, and even bands that aren't so big like D.E.P. are doing.. putting the records out by themselves, and people do get them. Hell, just have a read at this and see how Louis C.K. was able to put out a special by himself, for an honest price, in an honest way and make profit out of it, and have more purchases than torrents:

People of Earth (minus the ones who don't give a shit about
this): it's been amazing to conduct this experiment with you. The
experiment was: if I put out a brand new standup special at a
drastically low price ($5) and make it as easy as possible to
buy, download and enjoy, free of any restrictions, will everyone
just go and steal it? Will they pay for it? And how much money
can be made by an individual in this manner?

It's been 4 days. A lot of people are asking me how it's going.
I've been hesitant to share the actual figures, because there's
power in exclusive ownership of information. What I didn't expect
when I started this was that people would not only take part in
this experiment, they would be invested in it and it would be
important to them. It's been amazing to see people in large
numbers advocating this idea. So I think it's only fair that you
get to know the results. Also, it's just really cool and fun and
I'm dying to tell everybody. I told my Mom, I told three friends,
and that wasn't nearly enough. So here it is.

First of all, this was a premium video production, shot with six
cameras over two performances at the Beacon Theater, which is a
high-priced elite Manhattan venue. I directed this video myself
and the production of the video cost around $170,000. (This was
largely paid for by the tickets bought by the audiences at both
shows). The material in the video was developed over months on
the road and has never been seen on my show (LOUIE) or on any
other special. The risks were thus: every new generation of
material I create is my income, it's like a farmer's annual crop.
The time and effort on my part was far more than if I'd done it
with a big company. If I'd done it with a big company, I would
have a guarantee of a sizable fee, as opposed to this way, where
I'm actually investing my own money.

The development of the website, which needed to be a very robust,
reliable and carefully constructed website, was around $32,000.
We worked for a number of weeks poring over the site to make sure
every detail would give buyers a simple, optimal and humane
experience for buying the video. I edited the video around the
clock for the weeks between the show and the launch.

The show went on sale at noon on Saturday, December 10th. 12
hours later, we had over 50,000 purchases and had earned
$250,000, breaking even on the cost of production and website. As
of Today, we've sold over 110,000 copies for a total of over
$500,000. Minus some money for PayPal charges etc, I have a
profit around $200,000 (after taxes $75.58). This is less than I
would have been paid by a large company to simply perform the
show and let them sell it to you, but they would have charged you
about $20 for the video. They would have given you an encrypted
and regionally restricted video of limited value, and they would
have owned your private information for their own use. They would
have withheld international availability indefinitely. This way,
you only paid $5, you can use the video any way you want, and you
can watch it in Dublin, whatever the city is in Belgium, or
Dubai. I got paid nice, and I still own the video (as do you).
You never have to join anything, and you never have to hear from
us again.

I really hope people keep buying it a lot, so I can have
shitloads of money, but at this point I think we can safely say
that the experiment really worked. If anybody stole it, it wasn't
many of you. Pretty much everybody bought it. And so now we all
get to know that about people and stuff. I'm really glad I put
this out here this way and I'll certainly do it again. If the
trend continues with sales on this video, my goal is that i can
reach the point where when I sell anything, be it videos, CDs or
tickets to my tours, I'll do it here and I'll continue to follow
the model of keeping my price as far down as possible, not
overmarketing to you, keeping as few people between you and me as
possible in the transaction. (Of course i reserve the right to go
back on all of this and sign a massive deal with a company that
pays me fat coin and charges you straight up the ass.). (This is
you: yes Louie. And we'll all enjoy torrenting that content. You
fat sweaty dolt).

I probably sound kind of crazy right now. It's been a really fun
and intense few days. This video was paid for by people who
bought tickets, and then bought by people who wanted to see that
same show. I got to do exactly the show I wanted, and exactly the
show you wanted.

I also got an education. And everything i learned are things i
was happy to learn. I learned that people are interested in what
happens and shit (i didn't go to college)

I learned that money can be a lot of things. It can be something
that is hoarded, fought over, protected, stolen and withheld. Or
it can be like an energy, fueled by the desire, will, creative
interest, need to laugh, of large groups of people. And it can be
shuffled and pushed around and pooled together to fuel a common
interest, jokes about garbage, penises and parenthood.

I want to thank Blair Breard who produced this video and produces
my series LOUIE, and I want to thank Caspar and Giles at Version
Industries, who created the website.

I hope with all of my heart that I stay funny. Otherwise this all
goes to hell. Please have a safe and happy holiday, and thank you
again for all this crazy shit.

Honesty and creativity would save record labels. Shame those are 2 things that aren't respected in the business. So going after piracy is pretty much just putting in no work when releasing something.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:29 PM

I can honestly see this act going through and catalysing a proper revision of how the world works. More people will wake up to the fact that their entire life is moulded from a young age to just sustain the system, and that as long as you are a part of the system, and not one of those controlling it, you have no say, nothing.


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Posted 20 December 2011 - 06:39 PM

American government is already protecting themselves against that with amendments to the NDAA.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 08:46 PM

Just saying, guys..... Just saying.

And look at it this way. In a technical sense, video game mods ARE illegal. They could decide that websites like these are not suitable, and should be blocked. The internet was the absolute last place that we had total freedom.

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There is no "freedom of speech" in forums, yes you can say what you want but in the end what the mods say gos. This is not a democracy.


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 02:39 AM

Stop Online Piracy Act? I would not be surprised if youtube users delete their account.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 07:19 AM


Just saying, guys..... Just saying.

And look at it this way. In a technical sense, video game mods ARE illegal. They could decide that websites like these are not suitable, and should be blocked. The internet was the absolute last place that we had total freedom.

I appreciate all this talk about Canada lately :P but according to that video Evo posted, this act would have an effect on the entire world. The guy pointed out that the U.S. has a strong control over Internet standards, rules and regulations and "sets precedents for Internet law around the globe which means censorship could become the new standard". And yeah I absolutely agree with you, if they wanted to, they could find 'copyright infringement' in every little spot that they decided to look. A whole range of websites could be shut down/highly censored because of this. Scary stuff.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:18 PM

Well, seems the worry was overblown hype, but taking no action would also have been bad, it DID send a message that put off the worst of the worst, but I believe we're hardly in the clear on this threat to control content flow, and above and beyond Net security,
Net Neutrality must be operating under safe guidelines

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