Two games going simultaneously. That shot was from kids savepoint, hes way further into it than me, and yes, using pizza trainer? I've scooted ahead over the last few days trying to get caught up, and used the wrong save to take the shot, my bad! My file has no trainers / cheats used, with the same results. No, this is unmodded, as far as I am aware at least. Plus, a fresh reinstall of the game didn't help either, unless something is changed in the savegame file to account for it somehow. The monstertruck from Michelle's place looks and works fine, which makes me think vehicle spawn problem, but why the CTD as soon as trying to enter the weird truck, unless its because of being in a mission. This is just to weird!!