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#1 rmofarrell

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 01:16 AM

Alright, so I have several ideas:

First, I think Rio would be an excellent location. It is so big that the atmosphere would take elements from almost all GTA games. The downtown could resemble Liberty City, while beach/more coastal areas could resemble the semi-resort areas of Vice City, and the slums and other areas could incorporate elements of San Andreas. Also, the uber-dense 'favela' slums would be awesome to play in, with their insane inclines and windy, dense streets (google 'Rocinha', which is the favela I'm mostly thinking of).



Perhaps more important is how I think the city should be built.

One of the problems, I find, with GTA 4 (and all sandbox games, for that matter), is the detail of the map. To build something like Liberty City, you have to spend tons of time, and their simply isn't the time to spend on small details or interiors, which are so limited in GTA 4 (and generally in all games).

Basically, I think it would be awesome if players could build the city. My idea would go like this:
1. When people buy the game, instead of buying a city, they buy the topography of the city, with few buildings. (obviously the price, considering what you get, would be much lower, though people would pay for the other features) along with all the physics, vehicles, weapons, character models and non-building elements.
2. Next, players would buy points, like Microsoft points, with which they can buy raw materials or templates, with which they can design (or just build template designs) buildings and their interiors, which can be entered (or broken into) in the game.
3. Also, players would pay a monthly subscription fee to download daily updates of the map, which would include the newly-built or changed buildings.

The developers would have to include certain building limitations, like if someone builds on too steep of an incline or uses the wrong materials, the building collapses.

This would not be an MMO. Players would play locally or with a multiplayer like GTA 4.
However, players would be able to pause the game, select a building, and see the information of the builder, and be able to communicate with them.

One issue that would have to be figured out is why players would want to build buildings when others already have, a trend which would result in no buildings being built. To get players to build, they'd be required to have a home (rented or owned), as well as furnished to a certain degree (required: bed, sink, table, etc) so that when players enter, they will have something to look at. Worse buildings, like in the slums, would be cheaper, while nicer buildings, like downtown or beach-front, would be more expensive to build (and thus more expensive to purchase from other players).

Consequently, people could buy property using points off of others, and get around building, if they have the cash. Since these points are actually worth money, this would result in some people having really nice buildings, if they want to spend the money, while others have really bad buildings, because they don't want to pay. However, here you would run into another problem. There would need to be some sort of incentive to have nicer buildings, such as better weapons/vehicles/clothes/etc, different missions, or something else.

When someone pays someone else points for the "deed", that would be exchangeable in real money paid through paypal or something like that. This way, their would be an incentive to sell property like in a real market. People could also rent, which would be cheaper in the short term, though not in the long term, and allow builders to make a profit on building a multi-unit building.

In this scenario missions would also be a problem. While you could just cruise around, killing civilians and prostitutes, missions are still some of the best parts of the games. However, making missions in player-created buildings would be problematic, as they could obviously change. Consequently, the developers would have to construct certain buildings/areas in which missions take place.


So, the idea obviously has a lot of kinks.
Nonetheless, a city created by players, which constantly shifts and changes, would be pretty awesome. Considering the money-side of things, I think it would develop like a read city, with varying degrees of wealth, neighborhoods, etc. This would make the city pretty damn cool to play in.



PS: Elements of Rio's real economic differences could be introduced: Players could have a simple job if they buy a shitty house, or a more complicated, upscale job if they bought a better one. Basically, I think the missions/story-lines should be different based on how much money you spend, with wealthier players dealing with rich people, like in Ballad of Gay Tony, or if you spend little money, the story line is grittier, like in Lost and Damned.


So, anyways, this is just what I'm thinking would make a sick game. I'd sure as hell buy it.

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 04:52 AM

Also:
1. AI should be improved, so that killing cops, especially SWAT and FBI would be very difficult. I think the highest level should be military police, with heavily armed soldiers (better than SWAT and more numerous) using military-grade APC's and tanks. I think this would be more likely, and give much more of a challenge - and making 6-star escapes that much more impressive.
2. Buildings should be destructible, like in Red Faction: Guerrilla. Being able to bomb out several floors or even collapse a police building would be pretty damn sweet, as far as missions go, and a little bit of narco-terrorism goes a long way when making a game about criminals.
3. Police responses should be different in different areas of the map. For instance, in Rio, the favelas often experience extremely violent police responses when the police actually show up. Basically drug rings run the hoods, and often have shootouts with police, who also have a knack for killing civilians. I think it would be pretty interesting if, when in the favela, police rarely show up, but when they do, you have to face trigger-happy cops with assault rifles.

Basically, I think the game should be a little more realistic. Allowing the city to grow somewhat organically would give players a much more interesting and detailed environment, and these gameplay changes would complement that. I'd like to see a game where you can take on the role of Pablo Escobar (who basically bought himself a seat in the legislature with cocaine money, and when he was threatened with arrest, he hired Marxist guerrillas to attack the Colombian Supreme Court, burning all narco-trafficking papers and killing half the judges) and the like.

Chaos is basically what I'm going for.

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 10:03 PM

Whilst it might be a cool game, this isn't GTA. You're describing a city-building simulator, which after 6 weeks of effort building your city, you use it to play GTA in (which wouldnt be tailored to your city). Thats two separate games, and most people wouldn't want to have to sit through the building before they could just play. And it would cost shitloads to build a decent city, most people don't want that.

Now flipping it around, so being able to edit the city in a normal GTA game would be awesome. I'd hit that in a second.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 07:15 PM

You can. It's called modding :P

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 06:48 PM

Also:
1. AI should be improved, so that killing cops, especially SWAT and FBI would be very difficult. I think the highest level should be military police, with heavily armed soldiers (better than SWAT and more numerous) using military-grade APC's and tanks. I think this would be more likely, and give much more of a challenge - and making 6-star escapes that much more impressive.
2. Buildings should be destructible, like in Red Faction: Guerrilla. Being able to bomb out several floors or even collapse a police building would be pretty damn sweet, as far as missions go, and a little bit of narco-terrorism goes a long way when making a game about criminals.
3. Police responses should be different in different areas of the map. For instance, in Rio, the favelas often experience extremely violent police responses when the police actually show up. Basically drug rings run the hoods, and often have shootouts with police, who also have a knack for killing civilians. I think it would be pretty interesting if, when in the favela, police rarely show up, but when they do, you have to face trigger-happy cops with assault rifles.

Basically, I think the game should be a little more realistic. Allowing the city to grow somewhat organically would give players a much more interesting and detailed environment, and these gameplay changes would complement that. I'd like to see a game where you can take on the role of Pablo Escobar (who basically bought himself a seat in the legislature with cocaine money, and when he was threatened with arrest, he hired Marxist guerrillas to attack the Colombian Supreme Court, burning all narco-trafficking papers and killing half the judges) and the like.

Chaos is basically what I'm going for.



If you could play and destory the city and rebuild it and then play again with diff person and storyline, that be badass.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 05:29 PM

You can. It's called modding :P


Yet nobody's uploaded any map mods for IV yet, now have they?
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 04:32 AM

The idea seems cool

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 11:19 AM

Her name is rio and she dance's on the sand!!!

Sorry couldn't help myself, cool story bro!

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 12:05 PM

Bump. Cool ideas bro. I like the rio thing.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 12:39 PM

FFS dude this topic is almost two years old...

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 12:43 PM

I hope mr. Houser asks his writters to make a great story so that it is enjoyable not like the storyline of gta 4

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 03:23 AM

I hope mr. Houser asks his writters to make a great story so that it is enjoyable not like the storyline of gta 4


PLEASE STOP BUMPING THREADS.
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#13 MrLanceVanceDance

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:57 AM

Man, it would be absoulutely awesome if we could edit the city. I'd hit that in a second.
It would be really badass if you could destroy the city and rebuild it and then play again with a different person and storyline. Cool ideas, bro.




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