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#61 Harwood Butcher

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 11:09 PM

Maybe they were armed with melee weapons only or had weak pistols - how do we know he killed them with bare hands?

CJ is more ruthless because Niko only kills for money, but CJ sets up work and does anything to get the thing he wants. (example Sweet released from prison.)


Being ruthless is doing something without pity. Basically killing someone with no reason would be ruthless. CJ obviously had a reason and I think his reason is a lot less ruthless than Niko's reason.

I'm pretty sure they mentioned that Tommy did it with his bare hands in the game. Why don't you play it again.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 11:21 PM

Maybe they were armed with melee weapons only or had weak pistols - how do we know he killed them with bare hands?

CJ is more ruthless because Niko only kills for money, but CJ sets up work and does anything to get the thing he wants. (example Sweet released from prison.)


Being ruthless is doing something without pity. Basically killing someone with no reason would be ruthless. CJ obviously had a reason and I think his reason is a lot less ruthless than Niko's reason.

I'm pretty sure they mentioned that Tommy did it with his bare hands in the game. Why don't you play it again.

hmmmm... I'm not too keen to 100% VC again. You make a lot of very good points. Even though SA may be my favorite game CJ is my least favorite character. (I can't remember them mentioning it though. Probably went to the loo or something).

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 09:52 AM

I recently played VC again, and there's nowhere I have heard any mention about Tommy killing the 11 noobs with his bare hands.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 09:54 AM

I recently played VC again, and there's nowhere I have heard any mention about Tommy killing the 11 noobs with his bare hands.



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Posted 10 August 2008 - 09:57 AM

I recently played VC again, and there's nowhere I have heard any mention about Tommy killing the 11 noobs with his bare hands.


I don't remember seeign that too but it says that on Wikipedia and a lot of people here say it too.
And how the fuck do you know if they were noobs? Stop being a fanboy and bashing Tommy and VC all the time, jeez.
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Posted 10 August 2008 - 10:22 AM

I have never bashed VC or Tommy for fuck's sake. They are noobs because they wanted to kill Tommy, happy now?

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:34 AM

I have never bashed VC or Tommy for fuck's sake. They are noobs because they wanted to kill Tommy, happy now?


Wait, did you not hear anything about him killing the 11 guys or didn't you hear anything about him doing it with his bare hands?

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:29 PM

I have never bashed VC or Tommy for fuck's sake. They are noobs because they wanted to kill Tommy, happy now?


Wait, did you not hear anything about him killing the 11 guys or didn't you hear anything about him doing it with his bare hands?

I had never heard anything about him killing the guys but when I played VC the sound card in my comp was fucked something nasty ad so were the speakers and I'm not one for subtitles (I hate all the chinese movies that aren't dubbed ;)).

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 06:19 PM

I have never bashed VC or Tommy for fuck's sake. They are noobs because they wanted to kill Tommy, happy now?


Wait, did you not hear anything about him killing the 11 guys or didn't you hear anything about him doing it with his bare hands?

I had never heard anything about him killing the guys but when I played VC the sound card in my comp was fucked something nasty ad so were the speakers and I'm not one for subtitles (I hate all the chinese movies that aren't dubbed ;)).


Well I wasn't really asking you, but thanks for the input.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 03:11 AM

Ok lets forget Tommys harwood butchery thing, who else but Tommy can say he took on the Italian Mafia and won?
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 03:16 AM

Ok lets forget Tommys harwood butchery thing, who else but Tommy can say he took on the Italian Mafia and won?


Ok, so from the initial question...

"so what would happen if tommy,claude,niko,and cj got into a bar fight(have a sense of humor people)?"

We're just gonna scratch out Tommy...

"so what would happen if tommy,claude,niko,and cj got into a bar fight(have a sense of humor people)? "

In that case, I'd say Niko would win.

EDIT: As a reminder, this is a fist fight and everyone in the GTA series that took out the mafia took them out with weapons...which isn't really a background that could prove that one is better in a fist fight than the other.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 04:58 AM

CJ and Niko have remorse and guilt and other feeling, Tommy doesn't have feelings and Claude is just a silent killing machine.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 05:45 AM

CJ and Niko have remorse and guilt and other feeling, Tommy doesn't have feelings and Claude is just a silent killing machine.


Uhhh...none of them have feelings...they're video game characters. :P

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 05:41 PM

"your cold-hearted Niko"
"No, i dont have a heart all i have is air inside me" :lolbounce:

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 10:27 AM

..you forgot Mike from GTA:A..Ah..He's a dumbass anyway.
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Posted 13 August 2008 - 01:56 PM

CJ and Niko have remorse and guilt and other feeling, Tommy doesn't have feelings and Claude is just a silent killing machine.


Uhhh...none of them have feelings...they're video game characters. :P


That was a really dumb thing to say, think about it.

It's a story, characters do give the impression that they have feelings.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 08:41 PM

CJ and Niko have remorse and guilt and other feeling, Tommy doesn't have feelings and Claude is just a silent killing machine.


Uhhh...none of them have feelings...they're video game characters. :P


That was a really dumb thing to say, think about it.

It's a story, characters do give the impression that they have feelings.


That was a really dumb thing to say, think about it...it was a joke.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 08:45 PM

I have never bashed VC or Tommy for fuck's sake. They are noobs because they wanted to kill Tommy, happy now?


Wait, did you not hear anything about him killing the 11 guys or didn't you hear anything about him doing it with his bare hands?

I had never heard anything about him killing the guys but when I played VC the sound card in my comp was fucked something nasty ad so were the speakers and I'm not one for subtitles (I hate all the chinese movies that aren't dubbed ;)).


Well I wasn't really asking you, but thanks for the input.

Yeh I'm mighty fine at butting in :D

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 09:23 PM

CJ and Niko have remorse and guilt and other feeling, Tommy doesn't have feelings and Claude is just a silent killing machine.


Uhhh...none of them have feelings...they're video game characters. :P


That was a really dumb thing to say, think about it.

It's a story, characters do give the impression that they have feelings.


That was a really dumb thing to say, think about it...it was a joke.


Um, how in the world is anyone supposed to know you were joking, through a string of text unless you tell them so?

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 09:26 PM

CJ and Niko have remorse and guilt and other feeling, Tommy doesn't have feelings and Claude is just a silent killing machine.


Uhhh...none of them have feelings...they're video game characters. :P


That was a really dumb thing to say, think about it.

It's a story, characters do give the impression that they have feelings.


That was a really dumb thing to say, think about it...it was a joke.


Um, how in the world is anyone supposed to know you were joking, through a string of text unless you tell them so?


Do you want me to add more emoticons? I mean, I had this one >>> :P

I thought that would have been enough. Next time I'll post a shit load.

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Is that better?




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