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#1 bro1

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 08:10 AM

hey.


i was wondering since VCS is before VC
do we see vic in VC or mentioned?

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 08:45 AM

lance mentions that diaz killed his brother

"he killed my brother what do you want me to do mow his lawns" in the mission where you rescue lance from the garbage dump cos he tried to kill diaz

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 09:54 AM

Vic's fate was a cause of some controversy among fans, I think. Some say that he's the one who got killed in the crack dealing scene in VC, but because the guy speaks in a different accent, and because of the fact that his name wasn't mentioned, it might be either a retcon, a continuity error, or Vic might not be the guy who got killed in VC...

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 10:26 AM

ya but lance says diaz killed his brother. that being vic vance.

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 03:48 PM

Victor Vance was the guy possibly killed in GTA Vice City Drug Deal Scene, and Lance says Diaz Killed My Brother, but dont you forget, Lance has two brothers, Peter Vance(the one mentioned by Victor Vance in GTA Vice City Stories) sick with asthma. So it might be Peter who got killed in the drug scene.

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 04:39 PM

ya but lance says diaz killed his brother. that being vic vance.


Yeah but he has another brother as well.

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 07:39 PM

Some keep saying Pete was killed but in Vice City, Lance said "He killed my brother." He never said "He killed one of my brothers." At the time Vice City was released, Rockstar intended Lance to only have one brother. It wasn't until the time VCS came out when Lance's other brother Pete was introduced in the GTA universe. Victor was the one killed because his name was on the official Vice City website on that character chart. If it was Pete, then why wasn't his name up there?

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 09:33 PM

Vic was the one killed in the shootout in the beginning of VC, the character model looks the same as the one used in VCS.

In VCS references are made to Pete being handicapped, Vic joined the military to help take care of him.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 03:49 PM

urban outlaw is right, i mean pete wasn't mentioned about i don't think until vcs which was made after vc meaning that pete was thought up after the making of vc meaning that the dead brother referred to in vc is vic, also in vcs pete wasn't involved in any of the business side of things that vic and lance were so it has to be vic that died in the shoot out at the begginning of vc and the fact that pete is handicapped would slightly impare his ability to walk/fly

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 03:55 PM

That was a mouth full... Well anyways, what he was saying is that When Vice City was created, there were no plans for Vice City Stories. The fact that Victor's name in on the official website says that he was the one who was killed.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 03:59 PM

lol yeah i dont really think to hard about what i am gunna say i just kinda say it...

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 07:52 PM

This is from the gta vc website, and it clearly says, victor vance, head of vance crime etc OWNLY 2 MEMBERS.

What i think is r* changed their minds of what vic lookd like and made pete up to say that he was the one killed instead of vic, so they could make vic look differt that in VC. No where on there does it mention pete.
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 07:57 PM

When VC was out there was no such person as Peter Vance, R* changed there minds.

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 02:51 PM

Exactly that.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 03:59 AM

I remember Lance saying somthing about my "My Dead Brother's White Lady" which he is reffering to louise
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Posted 18 May 2008 - 08:26 AM

I remember Lance saying somthing about my "My Dead Brother's White Lady" which he is reffering to louise


Yeah, that must be it actually. Good listening.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 10:31 AM

I remember Lance saying somthing about my "My Dead Brother's White Lady" which he is reffering to louise


That refers to cocaine not Louise. Even I thought that was Louise but it means cocaine.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 12:24 PM

I don't get it how can a white lady be drugs(cocaine)

Lance said that as soon as Tommy murdered Mr Leo Teal(the chef) when they first met...

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 03:55 PM

I remember Lance saying somthing about my "My Dead Brother's White Lady" which he is reffering to louise


That refers to cocaine not Louise. Even I thought that was Louise but it means cocaine.

That's true.

Here's the quotes from that mission:

LANCE: Oh, way to go, tough guy. Beat him to a pulp.
LANCE: That should make him real chatty.
TOMMY: You want some, too?
LANCE: Hey, chill. I want what you want, brother.
TOMMY: Oh, yeah? And what's that?
LANCE: Your green - and my dead brother's white lady.

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Lance was referring to the cocaine lost in the deal since he was actually involved in it. He was trying to say "My dead brother's cocaine" Plus, again Louise didn't exist in the GTA universe until Vice City Stories and cocaine is white...

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 05:12 PM

Found this, thought lance might blame for keeping the cocanine and is that it at the start of vc?

Now What i think is r* changed their minds of what vic lookd like and made pete up to say that he was the one killed instead of vic.


End of article about vcs on wiki



Vic and Lance both decide to leave Vice City, to lay low for a while off of the large profits made from Vic's business. Before they leave via helicopter, Lance mentions that has gotten hold of 20 kilograms of cocaine and has stashed it out of town, but Vic angrily tells him to get rid of it.


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Victor "Vic" Vance first appeared in the opening cutscene of Vice City, in which he was killed by gunmen during an ill-fated drug exchange with Tommy Vercetti, one of the only (along with Lance Vance) survivors of the attack. In his first appearance, Victor speaks in a distinctly Latin accent. Victor's death staged the rest of the game's events, forcing Vercetti to root out the men responsible and re-acquire the 20 kilograms of cocaine and money he lost.

Victor returned to Vice City in the titular game, set two years after Vice City Stories, to sell cocaine to mobsters who were looking to gain a foothold in Vice City's drug market. Vic and Lance were brought out of drug-selling retirement by Ken Rosenberg, who was acting under orders from his mob associates to locate a dealer from out of town.[1] Rosenberg was allegedly referred to the Vance brothers through Colonel Cortez. It is assumed that the 20 k's of cocaine that Vic was going to sell to Vercetti are the same drugs that Lance had been sitting on since the conclusion of Vice City Stories.
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