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#1 Huckleberry Pie

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:55 AM

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The ripoff artists from China are bringing the phrase Grand Theft Auto to the next level - but, instead of Tommy Vercetti or thieves stealing cars for profit, the boys from the Great Wall are making cheap rip-offs of Japanese and American cars. And to add to the "Boo!" factor, one of their "masterpieces", the Brilliance BS6 (the yellow pwned car), was given a 1 star rating and a Certificate Of Pwnage by a German testing firm.

Here are more evidences of Chinese vehicular plagiarism:

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The original design the Nissan engineers have made for years

Another gallery of wacky car crap: http://thirdeyedumb....s_likes_to.html

Here's a quote from Managing Intellectual Property, about the CR-V rip:

Honda sues Chinese car maker over design copy
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Japanese car maker Honda is suing Chinese company Shuanghuan Auto for copying the design of its CR-V sport-utility vehicle.

Zhu Linjie of Honda China said the company had asked Shuanghuan Auto to stop production of its SR-V vehicle in September last year. When the company failed to respond, Honda launched a lawsuit in Beijing. No date has yet been set for the hearing.

Honda is the latest in a series of car manufacturers which have accused Chinese rivals of infringing their intellectual property rights.

In December last year the Beijing No 2 Intermediate People's Court ruled against Toyota in a case it brought over its distinctive logo.

The Japanese car maker sued Chinese company Geely for trade mark infringement and unfair competition in August, but in a ruling that surprised many IP lawyers, the judge said the two logos were "obviously different".


So, are Chinese automakers are to blame?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:59 AM

There's also a dirtbike sold in the US Honda's not happy about. The Chinese copied a Honda & supposedly it even uses Honda
parts for service.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:00 AM

That's because the only people who can correctly produce cars are Europeans and the Japanese.

And BTW the Chinese government sucks, communism at its finest...where most families make $300 per month and the government does nothing about it.


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#4 Huckleberry Pie

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:07 AM

There's also a dirtbike sold in the US Honda's not happy about. The Chinese copied a Honda & supposedly it even uses Honda
parts for service.


Go to the Philippines and you will see bike dealers selling shameful ripoffs of Honda motorcycles. And check out www.lifan.com - you'll see more ripoff motorcycles and stuff...

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:48 AM

My point exactly.

Just for the record, I'll put my F-150 toe to toe w/ Japanese or European trucks any time.

EDIT: just looked at the site, the first bike's the one I've seen around (or exact twin)

http://www.tradekey....motorcycles.htm

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:53 AM

Just for the record, I'll put my F-150 toe to toe w/ Japanese or European trucks any time.


Agreed

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:28 AM

Man, if Rockstar's busy at making parodies of real-life vehicles in GTA (like the Jester, resembling a Supra, and a Honda Goldwing lookalike) at a significant level, these Chinese boys are making this ripping scheme for real! How come the big-name auto firms haven't succeeded in suing them? :pissedred:

Besides, according to a lawyer, in her website:

After Toyota suing geely, Honda China filed an action against Shuanghuan Auto Co., Ltd, Shijiazhuang, Hebei and its distributor---Beijing Xuyang Hengxing Economic and Trade Co., Ltd with Beijing Higher People’s Court. Count of the plaintiff is that the design of “Laibao SRV” manufactured by the defendant is extremely similar to that of “Honda CRV” manufactured by Dongfeng Honda, hence infringing upon patent right for design of the plaintiff.

Sources from Honda that in September of 2003, Honda found the outer appearance of “Laibao SRV” was surprisingly similar to that of the “Honda CRV”. Though Honda sought negotiation with Shuanghan, the latter failed to make response, so Honda China filed an action against Shuanghuan Auto Co., Ltd and one distributor of its with Beijing Higher People’s Court on November 3, 2003.

Shanghuan held that, though there were some similarities between “Laibao SRV” and “Honda CRV”, the former was designed by Shuanghuan independently, and Shuanghuan did not infringe upon Honda’s patent right for design. Last year, Shuanghuan commenced an action against Honda with Shijiazhuang Intermediate People’s Court.


It's a blunt argument for Shuanghuan (the people responsible for the CR-V rip) to say that they just made the SR-V independently, and that they did not reverse-engineer or otherwise spy at Honda - it's obvious that they did copy the vehicle, judging from the design. How about an angry mob and a lawsuit, huh, Honda?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:51 AM

The Chinese are trying to become the next Superpower in the world. By sheer population they have a good start. They are the big reason that oil prices are so high. They are buying a lot of it up.

Not to mention an ass load of construction supplies.

Anyway, I don't understand why the big boys haven't sued yet. Is it because they are only really solid in China?

(BTW, I'd put ANY American made truck against a Japanese or European one.)
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:03 PM

The Chinese are trying to become the next Superpower in the world. By sheer population they have a good start. They are the big reason that oil prices are so high. They are buying a lot of it up.

Not to mention an ass load of construction supplies.

Anyway, I don't understand why the big boys haven't sued yet. Is it because they are only really solid in China?

(BTW, I'd put ANY American made truck against a Japanese or European one.)


Nope, they tried to sell their warez (no illegal software discussion intended here; we could have called those ripoffs warez, too) to the US and in my home turf in the Philippines, but they ended up with lawsuits like what was stated in http://en.wikipedia....n_rights_issues - and adding to the fact that they tried to sell a Smart car copy in the EU...

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:49 PM

Maybe Japan has some sort of deal with China for them to have all of Japan's decommissioned designs...?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:36 PM

That's because the only people who can correctly produce cars are Europeans and the Japanese.

And BTW the Chinese government sucks, communism at its finest...where most families make $300 per month and the government does nothing about it.


Lucky bastards, here most of the families make $100 or $200 per month, my dad gets 400, my mom 100 .... :lol:

They tought that Americans will never notice their car, and when they`ll see one will believe it is a Nissan :)
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 04:20 PM

Lucky bastards, here most of the families make $100 or $200 per month, my dad gets 400, my mom 100 .... :lol:


$400 a month is $100 a week, which is $2.50 an hour before taxes. I hope your parents make more than that.

Edited by draftermatt, 28 June 2007 - 04:20 PM.

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#13 Huckleberry Pie

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:01 PM

Lucky bastards, here most of the families make $100 or $200 per month, my dad gets 400, my mom 100 .... :lol:


$400 a month is $100 a week, which is $2.50 an hour before taxes. I hope your parents make more than that.


The legit automakers should have won the lawsuits... :pissedred:

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:10 PM

How the hell are the legit car manufactuers not winning these lawsuits? Oh yeah, because communists look out for one another. The Chinese government doesn't give two shits about anyone but its own citizens.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:15 PM

How the hell are the legit car manufactuers not winning these lawsuits? Oh yeah, because communists look out for one another. The Chinese government doesn't give two shits about anyone but its own citizens.


And they're notorious for being a toothless tiger when it comes to consumer safety, they have lax regulations concerning lead (the element pb, right?), since there were incidents involving a massive recall of toys that were found to have such crap! C'mon, guys, what on earth are you Chinese boys trying to do??? :pissedred:

Even Woozie might be disappointed to know that some of his fellow countrymen are notorious for making crap and spreading it all over the world...

Woozie: What are we riding right now?

Chauffeur: It's a Brilliance BS6...

Woozie: Go buy me a Toyota instead!!

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 03:37 AM

Lawsuits on the Chinese? :rofl: :lolbounce: :yup: :lol:

It's not like you can sent the sheriff over to collect a judgment & they know it.

The most the rest of the world can do is try to crack down on distributors selling the products & that changes from one country
to the next. Then you get corrupt officials looking the other way. The Chinese products are cheap enough to risk when they do get caught.

http://www.my-esm.co...icleID=13100410

http://www.purchasin...e/CA259097.html

http://www.panasianb...ost_ford_1.html

This is the tip of the Iceberg.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 04:46 AM

Lawsuits on the Chinese? :rofl: :lolbounce: :yup: :lol:

It's not like you can sent the sheriff over to collect a judgment & they know it.

The most the rest of the world can do is try to crack down on distributors selling the products & that changes from one country
to the next. Then you get corrupt officials looking the other way. The Chinese products are cheap enough to risk when they do get caught.

http://www.my-esm.co...icleID=13100410

http://www.purchasin...e/CA259097.html

http://www.panasianb...ost_ford_1.html

This is the tip of the Iceberg.


Well I could have pwned those idiots big time if I'm one of the engineers who make car designs... Well, maybe we'll make a big online petition to show to the Chinese that we're not happy about what they're doing...

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 05:02 AM

China does as china wants & they don't want to do anything about their ripoff products.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 07:38 AM

China does as china wants & they don't want to do anything about their ripoff products.


Ouch... That's why I don't like being in there... :pissedred:

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 08:54 AM

I dug out this vid of a chinese car test. The car is only going 45mph.....

Really shit chinese car crash test...
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