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#41 Urbanoutlaw

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 11:38 PM

My fords don't leave me walking & don't even start me on VW.

Sucks about the wreck, but if the car left the ground then rest is kinda expected. A few years back, some jackass tried to
sue (spelling?) Ford for the Crown Vic being unsafe. It seems a parked police CV was parked when a drunk rear-ended
it at 90 MPH (about 150 KPH) & ruptured the fuel tank & burned a cop to death. Look away for a second, Kids. NO SHIT BUCKWEAT!!!

I don't know of any production car that can take that.

All the makes have had these kind of headaches & when you get down to it, a car is potentially dangerous. GM had the
side saddle fuel tanks in their '73-'87(I think) trucks, Chrysler had latch problems in their minivans. And to be brutally
honest, most people don't really know how to drive.

Instead of crankin' the flamethrowers, let's just accept that different people prefer different cars & leave it at that.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 01:49 AM

Shyeah. I've drove my uncle's 70s? Ford F 150 ( I think.. I dunno.. it's just a bigass truck.) and WHOA. It's got a ton of torque. That's kind of the thing I'm going to miss out on if I get a honda, unless I go FI or build up the engine.. which I'd have to if I got hardore into the FI stuff. But yeah, just a simple, bolton SC would do it for me. Power to weight ratios are a lot in cars. Wonder why Civics can go so quick with not-so much power? They weight like 2200 - 2400 pounds stripped :o Crazy. But meh, I like the curvies too. It's always fun taking though, I've scared my mom on my mountain, haha. My cars gonna be such a money whore):

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 01:54 AM

Checkout the old ('72?) Charles Bronson movie Mr. Majestic, almost a 90 minute commercial for Ford Trucks & about half of
that was classic '70 carchase.

For you Chevy guys, Ryan O'Neil was "The Driver" (late '70s), he used a Chevy Shortbox.

Mopars, Too many to list.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 02:04 AM

That stuffs waaaaaaaaaay before my time :P How old are you bro?.. Just wonderin'


Anyone know if those 91 - 93 Sentra's are RWD or FWD? I havn't really read much into it, but if it's RWD.... it needs some SR20 love. Too many 240sx's.... there's some hawt ones around. Saw a shiny grey-ish ones with black wheels.. chrome lip.. mm, I wanted to lick it.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 02:10 AM

Let's just say I remember most of the '60 and leave it there. :evil:

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 02:45 AM

Whoa.. so we got an oldschool dude here, glad. Do you remember back in the 80's when the 88 Honda Prelude 4WS outdid a ton of exotic cars in the slalom? It hit it at like.. 65.8 or something. Not really groundbreaking in todays world, but back then it was pretty nice.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 02:54 AM

Yeah, I remember reading about those. The production models weren't quite right & they quit building them (at least for a
while). Had a big recall where they disabled the rear steering.GM played w/ it too. I think it was the Nissan Skyline (You've heard of those, right?) that finally had a reliable kit.

Off Topic - BTW, did you put much thought to your thread for a SA Story idea?

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 03:01 AM

Didn't know about that part, my Prelude only has 2WS... and has been sitting for 4 years I think now. I want to go look at that integra, damnit. What do you mean about the Skyline kit..?


And kinda sorta. I've been worrying about girls more than anything these past few days :P I think once I get to playing with the game a bit ideas will be a wildfire. I just hate having to take 3 minutes to adjust the water level each time, but eh, it shouldn't be too difficult.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 03:18 AM

I thought the Skyline had 4WS on some models. In all fairness we hear about them all the time (in the US)but only see most in magazines & Video games. As for "kit" I picked that up somewhere, Use it short for "came equipped with", "related parts"
& such. An actual Kit to install 4WS an a car would be a liability nightmare over here.

If I'm off on the 4WS, thanks for the heads-up.

You might be interested, the Skyline GTR is supposed to be coming to the US, in '08, here's somehing about it.

http://www.automobil...nissan_skyline/

Saleen & Shelby Mustangs, Dodge is bringing back the Challenger (5.7 HEMI?) & Chevy is resurrecting the Camaro (Vette motor?) Now the GTR.

This should get GOOD.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 03:45 AM

No idea, I pretty much pay mind to stuff I'll be able to get in my lifetime :P Are you talking about AWD? I know some Skylines have AWD, never heard of 4WS (Four wheel steering) on them.

Meh, it's not sexy like the older ones): It looks so... gaudy.. the body lines are non-existant. That's the way I love my cars.. AND my woman. With curves bro ^_^

And I can't WAIT for the Camaro. I'm gonna test drive one of those things for sure, seeing it's coming out probably around the time I get my license.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 04:38 AM

For some reason I thought you were in the UK, but looked at you profile & saw NC (I presume North Carolina), sorry about that. Got knocked in the head a few years back, some times it comes back on me.

Now that I've had my Grampa Juice:

You asked about emissions controls in another thread. They've been a pain since '73, some cars as early as '68.

When the phased out carbs & breaker points, they got rid of a lot of junk. By the mid '80s some one figured out how to grind
a cam that made decent power & burned cleaner. I'm guessing you have things like EGR, Smog pump & Catalytic Converter
on the little Bronco. Before '83 we just got rid of that & the cars ran better, so when Early computer controls came into play
they added sensors to most of it. You can still get rid of the catalytics until '94-'96 (Depending on model) when OBD II
went into wide use in the US. Then they added sensors to the cats.

Swapping your Bronco to a 5-speed would be a little work, but not impossible. Get a donor vehicle w/ all the 5-speed parts
& the computer (should be in the dash, behind the glove box).

This has been today's history lesson, Let's MOTOR!

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 04:54 AM

Bumping in:


The only American cars I actually like are from corvette. Not really fond of all the others, though some cadillacs are nice.

Edit: ow, and the Ford GT. How could I forget that. The thing is, driving it is more expensive then buying it. That think drinks oil as if it's water/Coca Cola.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 05:09 AM

Definately a history lesson indeed. Well, I actually would... it's just dad's daily driver and I've never done anything 'major' like that. Otherwise it'd be nice, especially considering the tranny has 28X,000 miles on it O.O


And er, Jace.. from Corvette... you mean from Chevy.. the Corvettes? Lol. I'd be willing to bet you havn't seen a fourth of 'American' cars buddy. Heh. Reminds me, my Uncle by marriage or something has a 63? Galaxie... no rust.. but the inside is torn up a bit, and it's just sitting.. rotting away. But I have a Mustang (Older.. fox bodys I think they're called?) resourceman right there. Him, his son.... and his son's son, which are both my cousins.. and one is alittle younger than me. My uncle's truck (Don't remember the year.. has a 302 in it.. 94 maybe) is a beast, too... we'll be going down the highway.. and he'll put it into overdrive and stomp it. We'll be spiniing at 60MPH, haha. Was pretty fun, might be why the transmission quit out on him coming back from SC. BTW, what stateside are you from?

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 05:24 AM

'63 Galaxie? That just cries for a 390 w/ a Sixpack (if it doesn't have one already)!

Jace - Sorry, Ford GT are way expensive, the only ones I can afford are in Gran Turismo.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 03:09 PM

Yeah well.. Corvettes are fairly expensive too.

And I've seen American cars, but I find them to bulky. Don't really like muscle cars. Though Mustangs look pretty cool, I really can't see why the camaros are nice.
But I guess that's typical for Europeans, liking all those Aston Martin and Mercedes type of cars.
DB9 is my favorite car BTW.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 07:18 PM

Anyone remember back in the early 90s when the Taurus SHO was better than the BMWs that were twice the price?

That was a good car that died an early death.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 07:37 PM

Jace - Thanks about the Mustang. Yeah I almost miss when dinosaurs roamed the highways, big cars tipping the scales at
over 5000 lbs. (2.5 metric tons). I think our little buddies, the OPECers miss 'em to. I could do a DB9 or a Jag Silverstone.

Righty - I got a buddy that has one, would only sell for insane $$$. I also remember the Shogun, a Festiva (Ford had them built by Kia, subcompact w/ 1 L I-4) that some one gutted & instaled the Tauras SHO drive train in place of the backseat.
Ford wanted no part of these things & refused to sell to the outfit making them. They got the parts by buying left over SHOs
when dealers cleared out their inventories at the end of the year & cannibalized the cars.

Not to be confused w/ Mitsubishi Shogun.

If you're interested, look here -

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ford_Festiva

Happy motoring!

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 11:55 PM

Shogun(ford) is a cool car, I'd never drive one. I don't like small cars. My 01 Taurus is on the border. I drove a focus - it handled nicely, accellerated fast (the 2.0 zetec didn't know what low end torque was) but it was just too small.

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 12:32 AM

Drove a late '80 jetta, same thing on the low-end torque. They (both cars) probably went with a light flywheel so they
would rev a little higher. Just a guess.

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 01:05 AM

Never seen a shogun.... buy this dude I know, his mom drives a pink Asphire... (Festiva sedan?) it's funny looking. I like the way V-dubs look.. too bad they're like they are.




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